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TRIBUTE TO D COMPANY CADET CAMP VALCARTIER 1974 14 Years, 12 Months ago  
By X CDT Corporal Paul Wheeler

09 April 2008
I was a cadet corporal instructor with “D” Company at the Valcartier cadet camp in 1974.

I was recently contacted by a fellow cadet NCO from that summer, Gerry Fostaty. He wrote to say that our former CSM Charles Gutta, was trying to compile a list of those who were part of “D” Company that summer to let them know about the yearly memorial parades that happen at Valcartier.

I haven’t spoken with anyone about that summer for over 30 years – it has been inside me like a black cloud in the distance – always there, but safely far away. Hearing from Gerry after all those years, and knowing that there were others that still thought about that terrible summer, was a surprise. I then searched the web for any items about that summer and found the Black Watch web sit, Meet & Greet.

To see the messages posted there by those who were part of “D” Company was quite emotional. There is obviously still much sorrow, confusion, distress and even anger about the explosion that summer and I felt a sense of sadness to see how this event changed the lives of those who were part of our unit. And there was also a sense of comfort in knowing that I was not alone in living with those memories.

After the explosion happened, I kept some notes and newspaper clippings, thinking that they might be useful some day. They have managed to follow me around for all these years and, after reading the questions that some of you had about what happened that summer, I though I would share some of the information and memories that I have.

“D” Company was Valcartier bilingual company, made up of cadets from Quebec. There was one mainly English speaking platoon (#10, if I remember correctly), one fairly fluent bilingual platoon (my #11 platoon) and one mainly French-speaking platoon (#12).

On the day in question, Tuesday, July 30, 1974, the bunk beds in #11 Platoon’s barracks were all pushed together to the back of the room to make enough space to house the explosives safety lecture that the “D” company cadets were going to receive. As I remember, there were approximately 70 cadets, four or five cadet NCO’s and two regular force instructors in the barracks. The cadets were all seated on the floor and the two instructors were at the front of the room, near the doorway to the center common/washroom area.

Myself and Marc Slater, another cadet NCO, were seated on the first row of bunk beds, immediately behind the seated cadets. The 70 or so cadets that were seated were quite cramped
The officer that was instructing, Captain Jean-Claude Giroux, and his assistant, Corporal Claude Pelletier, proceeded to speak about the dangers of unexploded ammunition and munitions and started pulling various ‘dummy’ munitions out of a box, showing the cadets what these various munitions actually looked like. After he showed and spoke about each one, he passed it to the cadets who circulated it around the room.

Midway through this presentation, there was a very powerful “boom” and the room immediately filled up with smoke. Marc and I were stunned by the initial explosion and my first thought was that Captain Giroux must have set off some sort of demonstration explosion – it didn’t seem real.

With Marc and I still sitting on the bunk beds, the next thing I saw were cadets emerging from the smoke – running past us, between the bunks to get to the exit. Most had a strange expression on their faces and there was a high-pitched muted sound that I could hear. It took a second to realize that my hearing had been damaged with the explosion and that the sound I heard was the cadets’ screams as they ran by.

It started to dawn upon us that something terrible had happened and as I looked to the front, the smoke started to clear and I saw many dark shapes on the floor. The smoke continued to drift away and the shapes became bodies – some moving, some not. And my hearing started to come back and, as it did, the noise level got louder and louder. That sound is etched inside – a combination of crying, screams, soft moans, and calls for help.

We stayed in the room and did what we could. There are some images from that time that are still as vivid as they were that day. I won’t describe them other than to say it was a graphic look at death and at dying.

We still weren’t quite sure what had happened and whether there was danger of another explosion. It started to quieten down and there were three or four of us going around the room to look at the injured and dead. This seemed to last for quite a while, but in fact was only probably a minute or two.

The entrance to the common area was suddenly full of people. Looking in to see what had happened. Then there were yells from many asking about medical help, ambulances, but some were unable to comprehend what they were seeing and simply stared at the carnage.

Finally, the ambulances and medical help started arriving and I was able to leave the building and try to find the cadets in my section.

The rest of the day seemed to rush by in some sort of hazy blur. The remaining cadets of ‘D’ Company were segregated from the others in the camp. We ate separately, marched separately and had little or no contact with others in the camp. As word got around Valcartier about what had happened, we began to notice the stares and hushed conversations from others in the camp.

We spoke quietly among ourselves about who we knew had died, who was injured, and who was missing. As the day wore on and it became apparent how terrible the tragedy was, cadets from our group would break down, start crying or shaking. And the others would comfort them.

We were moved from the barracks to a separate building – a chapel, I think. There were beds brought in to sleep and the lights turned down. The memories from that night were so very clear. Many of the cadets were unable to sleep. Some needed to talk, some needed to think, and some simply had to weep. There were some who, once sleep came, tossed and turned and mumbled. Some who cried out.

I can remember CSM Charles Gutta, a man we respected and believed to be ‘super-tough’, speaking quietly and gently to one of the distraught cadets in the sleeping area. Trying to comfort him as you would a baby.

And our CO, Colonel Whitelaw, trying to ensure that everyone was comfortable and doing what he could to not make the cadets feel alone, even for an instant. There was a moment that night, when I was watching him and saw him let his guard down for a second and there was such sadness etched across his face.

It was a sleepless night for many of the cadet NCO’s. There was a sense of responsibility for ‘our cadets’ and, at the same time, a sense of helplessness. We talked for a while, then drifted off into our own thoughts.

The days that followed were a jumble of trying to figure out what had happened, trying to contact families to reassure them and to seek reassurance and trying to move forward from the state of shock we all seemed to be in.
There was an inquiry and all cadets present in the barracks were questioned. It was very upsetting for some and some others became very angry.

In the end, there was an official Coroner’s Inquest and blame was placed on Captain Giroux and three other Armed forces personnel. The coroner also blamed the higher authorities of camp Valcartier, saying that “apathy or detestable routine seem to have fostered a climate of negligence and carelessness”.
It was determined that a box of 19 live green-colours M-61 grenades were being returned from a practice range in the same truck as the box of blue-colours dummy demonstration armaments. The live grenades were being transported in a cardboard box that was too small to hold all 19. Two of the grenades fell out of the box. One of the two grenades was seen mixed up with the dummy ammunition and returned to the original box. There was no search made by the driver or the warrant officer in charge to see if any other grenades had fallen out of the box and there was no count made of the live grenades to see if any were missing.

When the box of dummy armaments made it to the classroom, both Captain Giroux and Corporal Pelletier assumed that the lone green colour grenade in the box of blue-colour ammunition must have been a ‘dummy’, simply because it was in the same box.

The grenade M.61 was passed to the cadets by Captain Giroux and soon after exploded in the hands of Cadet Eric Lloyd.

I stopped following the case after that point and never found out what had happened to those implicated. Frankly, I didn’t want to know anymore. What had happened, happened and I just wanted to get on with my life.

Today, 34 years later, I can look back at the events of that summer without becoming upset. There is just a sense of sadness, quiet sadness, that the lives of such wonderful, young men whom I knew were ended so tragically.

The following are the names of those who died in the Valcartier cadet camp explosion:

Yves Langlois, 15 years old
Pierre Leroux, 14 years old
Eric Lloyd, 14 years old
Othon Mangos, 14 years old
Mario Provencher, 15 years old
Michel Voisard, 14 years old


There were over 30 others injured in the explosion. There was one cadet in particular, Yves Sénécal, who suffered brain damage from the blast and his life changed forever. [passed on of his injuries approx. two years later] And after looking at the Black Watch web sit Meet & Greet posted messages, there seems to be a few with suffering from stress disorder and the memories of that fateful day. They are the ones who need our support.

Now that I know about the yearly observation, I am planning to go next year (July 2009) to the 35th memorial parade. Perhaps this is the opportunity for all of us who were a part of this to come together…

Paul Wheeler
CITATIONS
Cpl. Paul Wheeler Order of Saint John, CDS Commendation
Cpl Mark Slater Order of Saint John, CDS Commendation
CDT Harold (Foster) Scott CDS Commendation
CDT Daniel Poisson CDS Commendation
CDT Normand Lussier CDS Commendation

NOTE: CSM Sgt ( ret). MMM, CD
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Re:TRIBUTE TO D COMPANY CADET CAMP VALCARTIER 1974 14 Years, 12 Months ago  
A long time my friend to carry that tragic day. Hopefully by writing about it and by going to the memorial you can have some sort of a healing period.
Good luck to you.
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Re:TRIBUTE TO D COMPANY CADET CAMP VALCARTIER 1974 14 Years, 10 Months ago  
Thank you Woody, this coment will be passed on at the meet & greet the 29 July 2009
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Re:TRIBUTE TO D COMPANY CADET CAMP VALCARTIER 1974 14 Years, 7 Months ago  
The Memorial Reunion was held on a two days the 29 July was the meet and greet were friendship were renowned and on the 30 July the parade and supper two great days culminating with a breakfast on Friday the 31 July not saying goodbye but aurevoir. From all this was a great success

After supper Speech by CSM Charles Gutta MMM, CD
Presentation of guests
Honored guests,
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Officers Senior NCO’s men of D Company 1974 good evening.

For those of you whom I have not had the pleasure of meeting, my name is Charles Gutta. I am the D Company Sergeant Major 1974.

Welcome.

For over two years we have endeavored to bring as many of the members of D Company as possible together again. It has been a challenge on a number of fronts.

First to find each other.

The records from that time, 35 years ago have been lost. We had to depend on memory and the signatures on the back of old photos to create a nominal roll of the company.

Then we had to depend on each other to seek out those that were missing and persuade them to join us. In this age of Internet SPAM and fraud, it is not easy to determine who is trustworthy on the other side of the computer screen.

Then we had to persuade those currently in authority that this was a worthwhile project. We weren’t asking for funding, we just wanted a place at the 35th annual memorial, and a date that would stay put once it was announced.
It wasn’t as easy as just asking.

Over the past 35 years the details of what occurred on July 30th 1974 had become lost or faded had, in some cases, been trivialized and depicted as an urban legend.

Some people even disputed the facts. The importance of the memorial had begun to fade.

We were not discouraged. We were very convincing, here we are today.


It was thirty five years ago that I stood before most of you with my clipboard in hands.

Called out your name, the names of those that were injured, names of those we had lost, although we didn’t know who they were at the time.

That was a confusing and terrible day, going by so fast but to us all in slow motion, a day that changed our lives forever.

Those that were injured on that day are reminded every day when they look into the mirror.

Some have let the pain fade, some are still tormented by the wound that goes much deeper than the puckered scar on their skin, but we all remember.

And so, thirty five years later, I stand before you again.

I want to say that I am proud of you.

I was proud of you on that day. You did not panic. You did what had to be done.

Whether it was remaining calm and in so doing, reassured your mates, or you were administering first aid, or you were rescuing your mates from this horrible site.

There were even instances where those who were injured were reassuring those that were providing there mates first aid.

If no one has said that to you before today, I am saying it now;
You acted and performed well. You did an excellent job.

I am proud of you today.
As I was proud of you yesterday.

You have made a difficult decision to re-establish contact with this group over the past year, you made a decision to be here today,

for your mates, for your families and for yourselves.

This is a large step indeed.

There are some that wanted to be here, but because of work or family commitments, they could not. There are others that were just unable to come back. It was too painful for them.

Today, we salute all of them and each other.

There are a number of people that made this reunion possible and should be reconised

The offices of:

Chief of the Defense Staff General WALTER Natyncyek

Chief of Reserves and Cadets Mgen. Dennis Tabbernor

The Archdioceses of Quebec Mgr Brig gen Jean Pelletier

Rangers Reserve and Cadets Ottawa Col Craig Fletcher

Chaplains of CFB Valcartier

The Regional Support Cadet Unit in St Jean Quebec Col Rick Sulik

RCAC of Canada M. Terence Whitty

Lt. Colonel Robert Whitelaw who started gathering members names on the Black Watch Meet and Greet website over two years ago.

RCL Commandant district # 4 St Laurent M. Georges Lasnier
RCL Branch 265 Loretteville Qc

Cadet Colin Caldwell, who was the first posting on the Black Watch website five years ago with regard to the D Company tragedy.

That posting allowed our searches in Google to land somewhere and allowed a few of us to realize that we were searching for each other.

Colin also created the face book site that allowed us to have a private posting area to say hello without the prying eyes of outsiders.

Major Robert Brochu Company Commander for locating the hotel at a reduced rate

You the members of D Company by your contributions for this reunion

Daniel Drapeau for producing the souvenir CD

Chef Warrant officer Claremont Morin, our RSM in 1974, who did much of the groundwork in Quebec City this past year for accommodations, catering as well as liaising with the Army Cadet Summer training Centre – Valcartier for this year Memorial.

Last there is a member in this fine group of men that must be recognized and congratulated, for his work patients and dedication for all of us, Gerry Fostaty for the tremendous work on the Souvenir pin and program and my phone calls.

I would like for all of you to stand and put your hands together in thanking Gerry and all involved that have made this reunion the success that it is to day.

In closing I would remind you all at breakfast tomorrow we will all say aurevoir and not good by as we said 35 years ago.

Ladies and gentleman have a good evening and for those of you that will be leaving us to night drive carefully
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